29 July 2010

Window Shopping: Kitchen Cabinets

We went around home depot stores, malls and an expo just grabbing fliers and brochures from companies we saw offering kitchen cabinets.

Then we emailed what I call a "Kitchen Kit". It contained the floor plan, drawings, notes, etc. This was to ensure that the suppliers would all be on the same page when it came to the quotation and we could compare fairly.

With the exception of SieMatic and Rian Commercial, here are the drawings where all the quotes are based. These were done by Viro Casa:

Viro Casa Drawing A


Viro Casa Drawing B


And here are the rates offered by the suppliers mentioned in the first kitchen post:

- Cabinet Specialist Inc.

Office: 9 Illinois St., Northeast Greenhills, San Juan City
Showroom: Automatic Supercentre, Old Rustans Bldg. Araneta Center, Quezon City
Factory: Purok 2, Calaboso Road, Bgy. Sto. Tomas, Binan, Laguna
Telephone Numbers: 725 8778, 726 7733
Email: specialist.cabinet@yahoo.com

Carcass: 1/4" thick marine plywood with white high pressure laminate (HPL).
Doors: Varnished solid agathis (Indonesian almasiga) wood. Varnished solid agathis wood frame with 1/4" frosted glass on panel.
Countertop: 12mm thick synthetic solid surface material with 32mm nosing and 70mm splashboard.

Price: Php 172,941

Note: We saw their showroom while passing through the Automatic Supercentre in Araneta Center. And while I thought they were located too far away from the house, it turns out their factory was closer than we thought. This taught us that it doesn't hurt to just ask as you'll never know what you'll find.

- Canadian Kitchen

Office: 1 Carlo J Caparas St., Bgy. Ugong, Pasig City
Showroom: Make Room branches
Telephone Numbers: 671 4495, 671 9142
Email: marquez_ariane@yahoo.com

Carcass: 18mm white HPL interiors on marine plywood; exposed sides to color match door.
Doors: Shaker door design in tangile wood frame with tangile veneer center in lacquer white finish.
Countertop: Not included.

Price: Php 252,288

Note: They sent a picture of a kitchen they've already done and I must say I really liked it. But unfortunately, they are not within budget.

- Cusm Furniture Shop

Office & Factory: Blk.15, Lot 2, Real St., Villa Eusebia Subdivision, Pulang Lupa, Las Pinas City
Telephone Numbers: 828 5156, 828 5153, 0922 815 6206
Email: cusmfurniture@yahoo.com.ph

Carcass: 18 mm thick marine plywood and plyboard with white laminate, PVC edgebond and 6 mm thick plywood backing.
Doors: 18 mm thick solid mahogany in varnish or duco painted finish.Frosted 3 mm thick glass on overhead cabinet.
Countertop: China granite or solid surface.

Price: Php 88,220

Note: The owners are related to Earl but it took some time before we were able to contact them. And while it was no surprise we signed up with them, fortunately for us, they also offered the lowest quote (I think they gave us a discount).

- Kicco Kitchen

Office & Factory: Felix Ave. corner Karangalan Drive, Cainta, Rizal
Showroom: Festival Supermall Alabang - Maquiling Builders Depot (Lipa & Los BaƱos) - MC Home Depot Ortigas - Parammata Bldg., San Fernando City, La Union - Villa Rosario Subdivision, Tiaong, Quezon
Telephone Numbers: 645 5252, 645 5283, 645 6508
Email: kiccokitchens@yahoo.com
Website: http://www.kiccokitchenphil.com

Carcass: 16mm thick white melamine-faced chipboard (MFC); adjustable shelves are provided with peg support.
Doors: Solid framed doors w/ veneer panels, shaker design, duco finish.
Countertop: Natural granite countertop - jet black.

Price: Php 150,000

Note: They had good reviews on the chat group I belong to and we would have seriously considered them had Cusm Furniture Shop not pushed through.

- KusinArt Kitchen System

Office: 143 Kamias Road, Quezon City
Telephone Number: 0915 660 3186
Email: kusinart_designers@yahoo.com
Website: http://kusinart.multiply.com

Carcass: 18mm marine plywood laminated with white non-postformable HPL with 0.4mm colored PVC edgeband. 18mm white versaboard for sink cabinet unit only.
Doors: 20mm Solid tanguile wood framed in clear lacquer finish recessed panel (shaker style).
Countertop: 18/36mm Natural granite with eased edge nosing and 100mm splashboard (Euro).

Price: Php 250,000 (VAT exclusive)

Note: They did the kitchens for the Oakwood Premier guest rooms in Ortigas.

- Modular Plus

Office: 30 Gen. Malvar St., Bagong Barrio, Caloocan City
Showroom: 19 San Joaquin Norte, Agoo, La Union
Telephone Numbers: 367 7150, 364 4755, 0917 564 2162
Email: jacqua_23@yahoo.com
Website: http://www.latimco.com

Carcass: 16mm thick moisture resistant melamime board
Doors: 18mm thick solid maple wood-shaker design (matt finish).  Overhead cabinet: 18 mm solid maple wood-shaker design (with glass).
Countertop: Synthetic granite (solid surface) – with 20 varieties of colors and designs.

Price: Php 217,980

Note: We saw their booth at the 2010 Worlbex.

- Viro Casa

Office: 6th Floor Exchange Corner Building, V.A. Rufino St., Makati City
Showroom: Level 3, Greenbelt 5 Mall, Ayala Center, Makati City
Telephone Number: 757 0743
Email: info@virocasa.com, b.visperas@vroque.com
Website: http://www.virocasa.com

Carcass: Triple-layer, high-density quality particleboard coated with melamine on both sides, 16mm thick, emission class E1. This five-layer composition guarantees freedom from warping and ensures clean resistant surfaces. Standard delivery is white inside with all exposed sides finished to match the door front finish.
Doors: Solid oak with veneer center panel in white stain.
Countertop: Samsung by Staron.

Price: Php 678,940

Note: It took them a very long time to send us a quote. But when they did send it, I was surprised to learn that, considering they're only a local company, they were at the same price point (if not more) than SieMatic.

The following quotations were obtained in 2009 and were based on different designs:

Rian Commercial Drawing


- Rian Commercial

Office: B66 Roga Compound, Tumana, Concepcion 1, Marikina City
Showroom: Balintawak Home Depot, Manila Bay Home Depot, MC Home Depot, Ortigas Home Depot, Pampanga Home Depot
Telephone Numbers: 948 5254, 948 1623
Email: riancom2marikina@yahoo.com.ph
Website: http://riancommercial.com

Carcass: HP laminated marine plywood.
Doors: MD fiberboard door.
Countertop: Natural granite stone.

Price: Php 180,000

Note: I saw their showroom and the display looked okay.

SieMatic Drawing


- SieMatic

Office & Showroom: Pioneer corner Reliance Sts., Mandaluyong
Telephone Number: 634 8587 local 263
Email: customerservice@focusglobalinc.com, dottie.coronel@focusglobalinc.com
Website: http://www.focusglobalinc.com, http://www.siematic.com

Carcass: Triple layer furniture board; K laminate.
Doors: Walnut wood laminate.
Countertop: Not included.

Price: € 6791

Note: They definitely had better customer service than Viro Casa... Maybe if we win the lottery.

18 comments:

Maxi said...

Hi Nicole,

Sobrang expensive naman! I assume the kitchen appliances are not yet included. :-D

Better get a good carpenter to copy all those designs, much economical in my personal opinion.

BTW, I saw a Mazda 3 with open windows passed our Avida unit. Is that you smiling? :-D

Regards,
Maxi

Nicole said...

Hi Maxi,

Yup, appliances are not included =)

And yes that was us! I so wanted to go down and say hi but we were in a hurry as I had an appointment in Makati with less than 30 minutes to go. But that's okay, I'll definitely say hello next time =)

Maxi said...

Hehehe that will be the most expensive kitchen. :-D

Do dropby sometime. I am with my contractor and electrician/consultant that time. We are so busy discussing the electrical system and ceiling installation.

BTW, my consultant told me that I need to change the electrical system of the entire house. Avida used flexible conduits and 2.0mm solid wires (good for lights only). According to him, Philippine standard states that use flexible conduits should be maximum of 1.8 meters only, PVC pipes should be used. Also 3.5mm stranded wires should be used for the outlets. There are no grounding system inside the house though grounding rod was placed near the electrical post. He told me if the municipal building inspector already inspected the house for compliance. I told my consultant yes, because the house was turnovered to me and I assume everything was inspected.

My electrical consultant briefed my contractor what to do and he will inspect it again once my ceiling was installed based on my own design. I previously requested Avida not to install my ceiling because I knew from the start there will are "mysteries" installed on the ceilings.

My contractor gave me TVSS to protect the electrical system for power fluctuations. The unit will be tested by one of my electrician this week.

There are so much things to do pa. According to my contractor, they can correct everything and install my designed ceiling next week.

Is this the same findings of your electrical contractor?

Maxi

Nicole said...

Expensive is right and unfortunately for us, our budget has been radically reduced thanks to Avida.

Contractor has not been to the house yet but I'll have it checked. Sigh. By the way, what mysteries?

Thiruppathy Raja said...

Thank you for posting such a useful, impressive and a wicked article./Wow.. looking good!
Kitchen Cabinets

Nicole said...

You're welcome Thiruppathy =)

Jen said...

Hi Nicole,

I chanced upon your blog after seeing your surplus items for sale on Home Stuff at GTalk.

I'm also having my kitchen renovated and my contractor (somebody whose work I saw a picture of in Pinoy Exchange) quoted me P100k using a 3/4 plyboards for the insides of cabinets and drawers, white MDF for doors, a couple of wire baskets for racks, Hafele hinges, stainless and aluminum handles, jet black china granite and labor for demolishing our old kitchen counter because it's not of standard height, painting of the insides of cabinets/drawers, and whatever electrical and plumbing work will be involved in the kitchen renovation.

My kitchen is quite small and I want it made into an L-shape to maximize the space. Looking at your drawings, altho I can't make out the measurements, I think your kitchen is much bigger than mine, given it is also U-shaped, but will cost you less than the P100k that was quoted to me.

I'm tempted to contact CUSM furniture shop, but I think the quote will be more or less the same with that of my contractor because I don't think I'll be entitled to the discount given to you because your husband is their relative. ;-)

Anyway, here's wishing both of us good luck as we embark on this very costly affair of house improvement.

I'd also like to have my electricals checked because I think my electrician also used flexible conduits... sadly I no longer have the budget for it for now. maybe early next year.

@Maxi,

I too found repairs/renovations quite expensive and did try to just get a "good carpenter" to copy the designs I saw on the net. I asked some neighbors for referrals... sabi lagi okay yun... magaling daw... mura sumingil yung nire-refer nila... Sadly, all my past projects ended up not being what I expected and hoped for. Laging me palpak! Maybe my neighbor's standard of "magaling" is simply not up to par with my standard. It was always a case of getting what I paid for... mura nga labor pero mukhang mura din yung trabaho... hindi pulido... even with those claiming to have years of experience as mason or finishing carpenter. hindi mo naman ma-verify yung "experience" nila so they can actually claim whatever they want to claim.

So, this time I got the services of an architect/contractor. Pag naman pangit pa kalalabasan ng kitchen ko naku mapa-paskil pangalan at quality ng trabaho nya sa buong internet! :-)

But I also told him na if I'm pleased with his work I will endorse him for a lifetime! gawan ko pa siya ng blog to showcase his works. hahaha!

Haaayyyy... gastos, gastos, gastos! Basta me bahay ka for sure gagastos ka ng marami at malaki.

Nicole said...

Hi Jen,

I suggest that you ask Cusm Furniture for a quote. They did not actually tell us whether they gave a discount, I was just assuming but I may be wrong.

Besides, there is nothing to be lost in asking. You'll never know, they might give a lower quote.

As to the measurements, go by the Viro Casa drawings - if it says "500" that means 50 cm. Add it all up and you'll have the length of the kitchen.

Kitchen Cabinets said...

What an exciting experience!/Hilarious! Delightful! True!/wonderful stuff! thank you!

Chuchay26 said...

Hello! Thank you for this very informative article. Do you still have the contact details for Kicco Kitchen? I tried looking them up in the internet and none of their posted websites are up. THanks!

Nicole said...

No problem =) The only contact details I have are the ones posted on the blog. Try calling or sending them an email instead.

Riza (Apple) Ereno said...

Sis Nicole,

What did you choose here? What can you say on Kitchen One, PR Kitchen and Italian Multiline Inc.?

Thanks!

Nicole said...

Hi Apple,

We didn't try the others so we couldn't say but here's our review of Cusm Furniture:

http://twostoreys.blogspot.sg/2011/12/supplier-ratings-modular-kitchen.html

http://twostoreys.blogspot.sg/2010/07/kitchen-cabinets-cusm-furniture.html

Kevin Porter said...

Hello,

I can see that you are putting a lot of efforts into your blog. Keep posting the good work.Some really helpful information in there. Nice to see your site. Thanks!

Aluminum Kitchen Cabinet

Paul Amores said...

Hi nicole,
You are very fortunate to have a good contractor unlike me. I was deceived by the nice showroom of viro casa at greenbelt. Viro Casa have a Very poor workmanship like cracked glasses on cabinet doors, wrong measurements, Ill-fitting ledges and counter-tops and the worst part is delayed delivery. I paid in full because they require it before they start on our kitchen last June 2013 and it's September already but our kitchen is far from being done. 4 months of headache for a simple kitchen in a condominium and it's far from over.

Nicole said...

Hi Paul,

Really? Considering they cost so much and they required you to pay in full? That's just wrong! Our contractor wasn't great, but I know exactly how you feel.

Anonymous said...

Finding a good finishing carpenter for your kitchen is economical. But be sure they have the experience working on modular kitchen. Here are some tips to consider:
1. There are available kitchen solid doors in the market (MC Home, Home Depot, Wilcon) U only have to decide for your preference on door finishes.
2. There are available boards to use for carcass with prepared white melamine coating. Use PVC edge-bond color that will match your selected door finish. (Lexus, World-class, Uni Decor)
3. If you will use aluminum profile as frame, it'd be better to use smoke glass. In wood frame, frosted glass will do. Don't use sticker as shades for glass bec it will melt with moisture.
4. Use solid surface or natural stone for counter top. Laminated tops will eventually chip even if u'd used the most expensive formica.
5. Make sure ud buy original hardware. (Systema, Besser, Blum, Hafele)

Nicole said...

Noted and thanks!

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